I'm thinking of puttin A/C in the 4 speed car, but in a way that I can remove it without hurting the originality.... basically I don't want to cut any holes in the firewall, and I was going to put an original RV2 system in it, and run custom lines to the evaporater (I bought a genuine Mopar underdash unit that fits), using a body plug hole.... but the Sanden thing has me intrigued.
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jazzandmoparguy wrote ... Cool! (Pun intended!)
I'm thinking of puttin A/C in the 4 speed car, but in a way that I can remove it without hurting the originality.... basically I don't want to cut any holes in the firewall, .... but the Sanden thing has me intrigued.
I am paying close attention to your work!
I don't plan on cutting any holes in the rad support to run my hoses, there is enough holes made by the factory to scoot the hoses through.
So with your underdash unit and the lines going through a body plug you should be able to have a modern system that won't effect any of your originality...other than looks.
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I have a '69 T&C that I am reworking too. Mine has the auto-air system that was single a/c only. I bought the rear a/c unit off eBay but I don't know the routing for the lines? Do you have any info/photos? I just dropped them an email about using this on my cars. Thanks!
For what it's worth, I sent a request to Classic Auto Air and they have yet to respond to me (a week latter)
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while max efficiency would certainly be gained by using all their new parts, I can pull 42* out of my RV2 with the stock condensor running 134a, having done no more than replace the oil and dryer. It's not as good in traffic or a hot day, but not bad for all stock parts running the wrong refridgerant. I wouldn't be too afraid of doing this in steps and running the sanden with the rest stock if a guy was just trying to get his a/c functional again.
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I've just bought a Sanden conversion from www.classicautoair.com hoses,bracket,new drier,fittings and compressor(no evaporator) included for my '66 C 300 with factory A/C. I'm getting fitted next week. (cost me $A715 to my door)
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Well the other night I decide to mock up the hoses and see if I could figure out routing and what things may look like.
I have the sanden compressor installed straight up, with the suction and discharge ports up. I installed the 90 deg charging port fittings off the compressor and then ran the hose under the top rad hose, so they would be away from the distributor.
Here's what it looked like....
I also ran the other hoses loosely to see how things looked....
I decided after looking at things that I might re-use the hard line that goes from the condensor to the drier then along the inside edge of the pass side inner fender and then 90's along the firewall. I have a straight line fitting that would tie in nicely, and I will still have ability to open this fitting in the future to install the "T" for the rear A/C tie in.
I am not sure if I like the look of the 90 deg fittings off the top of the compressor so I have since decided that I'm going to try and turn the compressor so the charge ports are pointing towards the dizzy and see if I like that any better, I would then use the 45 deg fittings included in the kit.
The only problem with this is I might have to run the A/C lines between the upper rad hose and the dizzy...it might get a little tight through there.
Will post more pics and info when I get this accomplished. <span class='smallblacktext'>[ Edited Wed Apr 13 2011, 09:48PM ]</span>
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Well I decided today I would try and mount the Condenser in the wagon....well I've run into a small problem...well bit bigger than small...
Here's the problem....
You can see in the pic that the lower RH side (Pass. side) of the stock condenser has been cut off, this was done to clear the bumper brackets and the plastic splash shield on the bottom of the bumper to the firewall.
Now the condenser I received is the 16x26 BUT it has the #8 and #6 ports right on the very top and bottom of the condenser. Now the problem is that it hits the plastic shield and bumper brackets and will sit to high....But I was looking at the pics of Butches fury and the #8 and #6 ports on his condenser are in from the top and bottom by a couple inches...If my compressor was configured that way I might be able to squeak it in.
So now I'm faced with either returning the condenser to Bouchillon for one with the fittings like butches OR try and mount it and deal with the problems it will cause.
I'm now wondering if I should have gone with a stock style condenser, even if the efficiency of the system would be compromised.