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Is the 74 Plymouth Gas tank shapped the same as the 69 to 71? The one I have is shapped like a wedge with the narrow side to the back where the filler neck is. I won a sending unit and want to be sure it fits before I go and modify it.
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Steve, it may not be an"exact" copy of our 69-71-2 versions but it'll be so close it won't matter as long as it was another C.
I just stripped a 70 FuryIII & pulled the tank cause it looked pretty clean, looked at the topside & it had 74 New Yorker written in the yellow junkyard pen on it. That fit just fine in the 70 fury. Evidently it was changed a few years back, probably rust as usual.
The 70 filler neck was in it & also fit fine & the sender looked to be in the same location. Keep in mind that a 74 might have more vent tubes than a 71 but just cap the unused ones. This one had 4-vents & my 70 has 2.
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"Keep in mind that a 74 might have more vent tubes than a 71 but just cap the unused ones. This one had 4-vents & my 70 has 2."
Stevo, I have to disagree with Butch. The vent tubes, and theuir locations, will make a potentially huge difference in teh two tanks. The tank on my Newport is from a '71, and the tubes are in a totally different location than on a '70.
Now, this will cause no large problem if you take his advice and cap those tubes ff. BUT, what do your Smog laws in Jersey say? If I had to have mine checked, it would have failed, for the previous owner had done just that.
I do not recommend capping them for another reason - fuel vapor exansion. These tubes do not hurt performance, and allow some reclamation of fuel vapors, which is a good thing.
I reconnected all of mine, but would rather have the right tank. One day I will.
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Grassy Ass Butch. That means the 74 sending unit I got will fit right in. Tired of guessing how much fuel is in the tank. Stays half full to 8 gallons and then just falls from there.
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Well, "Snotty" that's NOT what I said.....
I said to cap-off the EXTRA ones if they're there & use just 2 if that's all the car has. Tha't what was done on the one I pulled, they had hooked up to the original vents. Other wise the extra 2 would just be vented to the atmosphere. 2 were in about the original location & 2 were on the opposite side. Course the vent system on a 70' does just vent to the atmosphere anyway not to a line to the front or canister. The Idea is to use what necessary to work properly & cap the unused so they DON'T vent to the atmosphere.
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Sorry, Butch, you did say just cap the two. My mistake.
However, "Course the vent system on a 70' does just vent to the atmosphere anyway not to a line to the front or canister. " Not on a car originally from California. I have a vapor return line to the motor to be drawn into the air cleaner, and a liquid vapor recovery line to rerurn to the tank. The non-49 state cars started years ago.
My car was originally sold in North Hollywood on Aug. 31, 1971. Yes, it sat for a year before being purchased.
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Yeah, I know the California cars had ECS ( or is it CAP? I always forget which ) but Steve is over on this end & unless it came from out there it should be a 49 state.
Then again, I have'nt looked at a 71 over here & I know some started to use that stuff by then. I figured Steve just wnated to know if it would fit.
Around here Emissions test don't exist, not something we have to worry about. But....if we pull something from someones car I tell 'em to keep it , Just in case. Ya never know.
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"Around here Emissions test don't exist"
They do here. All cars 1975 and newer must have an inspection every two years. The inspection is an emession and visual test. If it's not factiory original (with some small exceptions) it will not pass., regardless of how clean the car runs. I had a '79 Cordoba fail because it was missing the aluminum tube from the exhaust minifold to the ar cleaner. The emissions were so clean it DID NOT REGISTER, but the jerk failed me anyway.
Now, here's the rub in California that most people dont know. All cars 1974 and older are exempt from the two year inspection, and for the inspection at the sale of the car. Notice the words. Most people out here will tell you their cars are therefore, exempt, period! But, they are exempt from the manditory inspection. They can still be pulled over by a CHP and ordered to go to a station and be examined. Once there, the car can be listed as a gross poluter and given one year to come into complance or be crushed.
So, think of all of those guys who have taken CA cars, still living here, and yanked the 318 out for a 440. Although I do not know of a single case having happened, they can, by Law, have their car taken and crushed.
Man of my CA buddies argue with me on this one. My answer is simply, "Read the Law."
Now, with that wonderful news, I hope yopu have a great NEw Year!
